This could be a closure. Or a new shape of friendship. A kiss on the cheek.

"I personally don't believe in global warming. It's just a political twist of powerful countries not wanting developing countries, like Indonesia, emerge as new power in global industries. The world has its cycle and its own mechanism to make itself sustainable."

Always a little discussion. Now over pancakes.

"Well, politic aside. What's wrong with recycling and trying to make less and less solid waste disposal? What's wrong with planting more trees or building more environmental friendly homes? It doesn't matter whether global warming is really exist or not, living green doesn't hurt anyone."

"Poorer countries will always be dependent to richer countries. How could they manage to accelerate their economy if their industries and manufactures continue being held back by the reason of global warming? Those superpower countries only use global warming issue to secure their positions in the food chain."

"Cleaner technology will indeed improve the living quality of society. Reducing raw material, recycling product into its raw material will help. Reusing what you have at home instead of buying the new one is not only helping the environment, but also your wallet, and it prevents any more unnecessary disposal."

"Clean technology is expensive. Raw materials are usually cheaper than the recycled ones, clean technology is not exactly congruous to be implemented in developing countries. Tax cut or incentive for industries that use clean technology, they couldn't do that."

"That's the use of research, to discover new possible, cheaper, more environmental friendly both processes and materials. People need to work together and stop pointing at one another. We could start living green at home. People that live near industrial area could protest if those industrial activities interfere their healths. Government should make a strict policy about emissions and litters that could be harmful to water and soil."

"That could be done, again, in already are industrial countries. There's almost no textile plants in US. They move them to Vietnam, Cambodia, Indonesia because that kind of industry produce a lot of waste."

"And they buy it back to United States. Making coutures and expensive clothes..."

"... and sell it to people around the world, including Vietnam, Cambodia, Indonesia."

"But that's the purpose of industry. You add some value to raw materials, sell them and collect much more money than the producers of those raw materials do. I honestly don't see the bad in capitalism. You want to win big, you have to bet big."

"Developed countries have two faces..."

"We all do."

"Exactly. Raising up this global warming issue, making this sound important and urgent. While at the same time they don't want to sacrifice anything. They push developing countries into taking responsibilities of what developed countries have done. All the data about earth warming up, is only a bunch of curves of what's been going on in the past... let's say, 50 years, 100 years. Earth exists much longer than that. Its warming up and cooling down, it's all part of the cycle."

"If there's no global warming issue people won't stop using cheap technology that will intoxicate their own bodies. People will never stop dispose unnecessary wastes."

"Global warming issue ties down poorer countries and prevents their economic independence. Now is the mankind prosperity versus paranoid hypothesis. And you haven't finished your food."

"I have. I feel full already."

"You only ate a half of it."

"But I can't eat anymore. Or else I'm gonna be sick of too much carb."

"Why... I'm always the one to finish your meal."

Kafka said stories don't have to state morals. Sometimes stories are just about the beauty of details and well written lines.

Talks don't have to have conclusions. The beauty of it is just when you're there, with persons you care about, talking and sipping orange juice.